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Chaos tends to result in more dead bodies. Wouldn't you agree?

I dunno, seems like your sorting out chaos resulted in at least one too, though I suppose he got you back. [Publicly. He might be an idiot sometimes but he does actually pay attention to the network and tries to keep decent notes.]

Anyways, I'm not much a fan of this kind of chaos myself. I thought I had figured out some 'facts' and I was wrong. Me and everyone else paid for it.

The only one I can say for certain even is a fact is inmates can't read the Ledger. Which is honestly fucking useless as far as rules go. You got any others to share, help me toe the line?

And imagine what I could have done if I were trying to sow disorder.

Yes.

I was unaware you had any interest in following rules. You also do not seem to make a distinction between what is allowed and what is physically possible.

well, seeing as I never actually killed anyone on purpose, practicing magic is entirely allowed, and physically possible is just, skies the limit when you've got a bunch of crazy magical, otherworldly beings on board.

But rules are important, even if it's just so you know how far they can bend before they spring back into place. If I figure those out, I can at least be informed, and that's important when you're not actually trying to wreck house.

I am not so long here myself. Why not ask someone here who is less new?

So, either you don't know any yet yourself, or you dislike me enough to not share, either is fine by the way, that's entirely up to you.

I'm not above asking any one, and you're definitely not the first person I've asked, and not the last either. But, what I know is that you seem to be very interested in rules and testing limits yourself, I'd be shocked if you haven't figured any of it out yet, seeing as you're obviously very thorough when you get on task.

[Without much to bargain with, flattery works well, right? And it isn't like what he's saying isn't true either, which is the best kind of flattery in his opinion.]

I dislike you, but that would not prohibit me from discussing rules with you.

I admit that the one rule I know for certain is that there are no standards. No cohesiveness within the wardens, and this is from their own mouths. You will be disappointed if you look for reason or reassurance, as the only sense within this chaos is what we make ourselves.

The reason I am testing limits is because I wish this ship to operate at its very best, as it is the only way to return to where I am needed most.

Oh good, I was hoping that was the case. I get pretty honest feedback from people like you, just have to weed out the bias of how little you think of me before its actual good advice.

[unlike before when he was feeling like shit and attempting to field questions his mood is a little more receptive. Probably has something to do with the fact that he isn't intermittently experiencing heart failure. Does wonders for a guy's patients.]

I got that one, though I wouldn't call it a rule, more like a lack of. It practically promotes chaos, which really helps no one.

And just so you know, your idea of very best and everyone else's is going to be different, just like with the lack of cohesiveness with the wardens. How's that going for you, by the way? Recieving a lot of push and not enough momentum to shove back?

Not entirely. There are some remarkably hard-working and intelligent people here, on both inmate and warden sides. I also wish to work with those who may be less prepared, as we are so few here and morale has been, based on reading, historically low except for large, outside threats.

What does 'less prepared' mean to you anyways? [He's getting 'overly competent Mr. Mansley' from Iron Giant vibes though that might shift the more he talks to him.]

And, if you're actually looking to help people out rather than just herding cats, what can I do to help, if you would have me?

Let me answer both of your questions with one of my own.

Have you seen the escape pods here on this ship?

Oh, you mean the lifeboats? Yeah, haven't really taken a peak. I figure it'd be a fucking death sentence to get in one either way if it was necessary.

I don't think anyone has even brought them up before. Are they actually supposed to go somewhere specific or just leave us floating in dimensional space until we starve to death?

An interesting question. One that I don't believe I've seen raised. Nor do I believe we can know for certain, as they're sealed against even wardens.

Did you know that we have between fifteen and twenty more passengers than there are life boats?

So emergency use permitted by Admiral only? Aren't those things supposed to get serviced regularly? I mean, all the disaster shit I've ever seen on the history channel always adds in the detail that the lifeboats weren't properly stocked or maintained.

I'm no survivalist but that should be someone's job, right?

And that honestly doesn't surprise me. You ever heard of the titanic? There's never enough lifeboats.

Precisely.

This is but one aspect where I believe we are ill-prepared for emergency evacuation. I believe some wardens were not told entirely what their jobs were meant to entail. I also believe that allowing us to stagnate in our positions and not rotate them allows us to become siloed.

I also do not appreciate some wardens - not all, but some - dismissing inmate critique out of hand.

We seem to be a strange collective of refugees, doing our best without guided leadership. It should be on the Admiral to dictate our course, but he appears content to react only passively to warden complaints.

[Hanna pushes himself up from his casual lean against the door frame, unsure if Thrawn was receptive to constructive criticism as he expects everyone else to be, but it was worth a shot if he was honestly interested in the safety of everyone on board.]

Okay, so I'm going to focus on one of those points, seeing as I've seen you in 'work mode' and you can very easily come off as a pretentious dick.

No one likes that, and if you come at people like that with critique it's going to fall so far, you won't be able to pick it back up again. You have a message, it's important and can maybe help, so tone down the vibes, get on someone else's level and you might get somewhere.

Hasn't anyone ever told you coming on too strong is a bad thing?

Many times.

In the past, I have sought to mitigate this trait of mine with the help of other people. Those I trust, who can smooth tempers and calm those I unexpectedly irritate with my...shall we say, lack of social skills.

Yeah, well. Being where we are, a PR guy sounds like a great way to cut through your uh...rough delivery, but maybe start thinking about doing that yourself.

Also, come on, be honest with yourself. Is it really 'unexpected' if you know you need a guy to smooth it out when it inevitably happens?

You're smart, I'm sure learning how to communicate your master plans without pushing everyone away from you before you're done is within your capabilities.

Clearly you've yet to meet most of me.

[he's dry. Calm, soft, but very dry]

My warden is working a plan out with me while we speak. I believe he had much the same points as you to make.

In the meantime, should I stop engaging with others here in matters of improvement?

I work with quite a few massive assholes back home, you've yet to get so mad your face starts melting off, so I think you're doing fine, just gotta get at the edges with the fine grit, you know?

[He is being entirely serious, dude. He believes in you even if he doesn't like you. Look at that face, there is no bullshit here.]

He sounds like he's got the right track. And no, that'd be dumb. Every new conversation is an opportunity to practice, so make the most of it, right? Honestly, being up front about it and asking for pointers, which parts were off putting after you're done might be helpful, don't you think?

Not everyone is going to, or be nice about it but that's free assessments all around.

Edited 2024-09-12 15:26 (UTC)

Better than you and Florian have tried to get me to understand. I have attempted. I find it all...slow, deceitful, and repulsive.

Worse, the rules are constantly shifting and I have to divert my attention entirely to it, leaving worthier projects by the wayside.

Edited 2024-09-12 15:34 (UTC)

Slow is relative. We're on immortal, magical being time here, and apparently your time at home? Ain't moving.

It might feel like a slog, but it's better than being dead, at least I think so. And can't you multi-task? Focus where you think you'll be most heard, find someone who can peak past the curtain of- [He gestures to all of Thrawn] this and see the intention, and maybe get someone to help you on...personable sensitivity training.

You're a plan guy, obviously, but maybe looking at it too closely is the problem. You're killing yourself with detail, zoom out a bit. It might be less frustrating that way.

No.

[Hanna raises an eyebrow at him, crossing his arms.]

Now what were you saying about people not taking your advice into consideration?

I'm just offering free thoughts but an immediate shut down like that sounds like something that would piss you off if you were on the receiving end.

No, it is not less frustrating in that way.

Understand that I have been this way, reluctantly, since I was old enough to understand who I was.

There have been many attempts to change this part of myself. Do you not think I find it frustrating that I, too, cannot see you as anything more than an ally to be placed on the wide board?

You are an asset. I understand you have thoughts and feelings and desires, but to lean on them when not on a field of battle is to throw a stone into a mist and hope to hit anything.

It is a handicap.

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